Six Nations: Scotland v France reaction: “Referee couldn’t have made any other decision” – Fabien Galthié

France head coach believes referee Nic Berry was correct to disallow Sam Skinner try

Fabien Galthié greets Cam Redpath after France's win over Scotland at Murrayfield. Image: © Craig Watson - www.craigwatson.co.uk
Fabien Galthié greets Cam Redpath after France's win over Scotland at Murrayfield. Image: © Craig Watson - www.craigwatson.co.uk

FRANCE head coach Fabien Galthié has insisted that referee Nic Berry made the right decision when  disallowing Scotland replacement second-row Sam Skinner’s try in the final minute of this afternoon’s [Saturday’s] Six Nations clash at Murrayfield, which denied the home side a narrow victory.

“I think the images are quite clear from the start and I don’t see how he [the referee] can make any other decision,” said the former Les Bleus scrum-half.

“The referee said it was not a try. But we are in Edinburgh with crazy pressure. He referred it to the video referee. The on the field referee is very well placed, he said it was not a try. But anything can happen, we are used to that … I experienced it like this week, with great happiness, with great pleasure. It is not the first time we have had difficult moments, it is like that and we build from that. That is rugby, That is sport, for us that is the essence of it. We are the French team, I promised you the French team would win again.”


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Galthie has endured a tough week after France’s heavy loss to Ireland in Marseilles last Friday, and was clearly delighted at the way his players helped him answer some of the criticism which has come his way.

“Honestly, there are many, many emotions,” he said. “It’s perhaps a bit stupid what I’m going to say, but it’s one of my greatest victories with the France team. We had a complicated week. We have really become closer between us. We wanted to do it for us and we did it. I’m very happy for some players and the group. I say it again, it is one of my greatest victories with the fifteen of France.”

“Some players showed a lot of character. No one is surprised in the France group because we know them well. There is no need to cite them. We are high-level athletes.

“I love articles when they are positive. I also read them when they are negative. It becomes an essence for me on the weekend.

“We knew what they [Scotland] were going to do and we adapted pretty well. Above all, we didn’t give up. We managed to score again after them, we held up well at the end of the first half, we didn’t give up for 80 minutes. It was very hard but the ending was magnificent in terms of emotion.

“It is a victory in Scotland with a fantastic scenario, after a week spent with the players where we recalled the values of the game. The week resembled the match. We enjoyed ourselves. This is a sport of combat, you have to be combative. One has to accept that there are times of adversity. We dealt with that this week. We lose  together, we suffer together, we win together.

“When you win in Scotland, you know the overall content … it is fine with me. Given the level of team Scotland are, it is fine. Given the context it is ok. It is perfect. We are not here to give demonstrations of perfect rugby, we are here to win matches. The content was formidable.”

 

 

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33 Comments

  1. I think we all need to step back a second here and have s wee look at ourselves in the mirror. From Townsend and Dodson to the ball boys, who hasn’t made a mistake ? Every single Scottish and French player made mistakes on Saturday, so did all the coaches. And everyone turns on a referees’ one mistake? Get a life people, leave the man alone and look at yourselves. These men and women aren’t paid enough to put up with the vitriol they get; so back off is my suggestion. Are you all up in arms and shouting the odds about every mistake each and every player made in the 80 minutes? No, exactly………….enough said; wouldn’t surprise me if yet another referee retired, no thanks to all the keyboard and know it all “experts “

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    • The keyboard warriors disagree with you Mike so obviously you are talking sense.

      Nigel Owens said the TMO made the correct decision but what would he know eh?

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    • It’s not the best analogy though, is it?
      Players and coaches make mistakes in live play with no ability to rerun the error.
      If the ref had made the wrong decision in the heat of the game it would have been understandable.

      They had 5 minutes to review and discuss a multitude of angles.

      The TMO process was designed to take that uncertainty out of the game – especially for critical decisions like the “try” at the end.

      The fact that the process was played out on screen for all to see and hear demonstrated that the protocols need to be amended.
      It was clear that there was uncertainty between the TMO and the ref as to who has the call.

      Ultimately it is up to the ref, but if the TMO, like the viewing audience can see the ball on the ground in that situation and not say it is a try suggests that the TMO is of limited use in a pick and go. Also, this particular TMO had no issue picking out incidents completely missed by the ref during the world cup so it cannot be a reluctance to intervene.

      It’s an imperfect system: the point is that it needs to continuously improved to prevent it happening again. This incident should be reviewed with some key learnings and adjustments to the protocol for both TMO & referee.

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  2. From memory and I realise that itwas Saturday I think the Scoteboard at the end showed that France won although may hust be getting doddery perhaps in 20 years it will show a Scots win but somehow i think not Townsend and co got it wrong once again not the referee

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  3. Be so much better when we just get two guys to run touch. Assistant refs contribute nothing. All prima Donna’s.
    So much was missed in this game. Its scandalous. But that’s modern day rugby.

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    • Suggest you know all the rules, apply them correctly and never make a mistake, never mind word a question wrongly. Poor ref is only human; like everyone else. If all the Scottish players hadn’t made any mistakes Scotland would have won by 50 points. They didn’t; becasue they made mistakes; either physical or judgemental. You can do better?

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  4. The ignorance of some fans when it comes to the necessity, at this level, of playing rugby in the right part of the park and as such winning the kicking battle is startling. Especially given the decades gone by. Sure let’s revert to type and get spanked. That we have players of Russell’s calibre able and sensible enough to play territory is a welcome development in the maturity of Scottish rugby.

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    • You’re saying this as though this led to a good outcome – it didn’t!! Sure a good kicking game is important to get us in the right areas, but this wasn’t that – but it didn’t lead to any specific period of dominance – in face we lost all previous dominance, momentum, shape and anything we would otherwise have offered in attack. It prevented us focusing on scoring more points, and instead leaving us open to a single score against that French backline – which obviously came to pass through a single mistake. It wasn’t the right strategy to adopt at that point in the match, and the final score proved it. even taking into account the last-gasp effort to get across the line which should have still won us the game – we should have been doing that earlier when we were on top and not under pressure to score with the clock in the red.

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  5. One thing I’d like clarification on is what exactly constitutes ‘conclusive evidence’ in order to overturn. As far as I can tell what the TMO was really saying underneath it all (no pun intended..) is that he couldn’t see both the ball down and over the line on the same camera angle.

    But… surely this isn’t actually in the wording of the law? Or needed by the laws of physics. There are multiple camera angles that show the ball is over the line (but not down), and one camera angle we’ve all seen a hundred times now that shows it down (but not over the line) – therefore the criteria have been met. If the ball is over the line and down… it is a try. There’s no other physically possible outcome!

    Anyway… onwards. England didn’t look that great again… be nice to get back to winning ways in 2 weeks

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  6. We didn’t win but the analysis of the performance should be as if we had come back in the final minute to win. Great composure and character.

    I can see people’s point about the kick tennis before that, but I’m not sure I agree. France were kicking long with a line of chasers readybif we moved more than 5m, they wanted us to run it. We had been on top but it wasn’t like we ripping them apart. Apart from the try (a big exception I know) they didn’t come close to scoring. We then came back and scored.Isn’t that the sensible rugby everyone here has been calling for?

    I’m all for running everything (and I’ll be okay with a few extra loses as a result) but pragmatism seems to be what most on here want, until it doesn’t pay off.

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    • Very similar to my take Page. I agree the “kick tennis” was a strategy to gain territorial and tactical advantage which Russell refused to give up by engaging with the French.

      As Finn says we need to take the officials out of the decision, that game was won but for the dodgy try decision at the death and the clearly forward pass to the French winger who scored their magic try

  7. Ask yourself this. If it had been Duane Vermuelen, not Sam Skinner, propelled over the line by the South African, rather than the Scotland, scrum…
    Would Brian McNeice and Nic Berry have called it “held up”?

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  8. replying to Tasmanian Tiger.

    Yep you totally missed the point of what I was saying.

    Firstly I don’t accept your premise that we were defending a six point cushion (of course Finn is notorious for his defensive play) but trying to gain a territorial and tactical advantage to consolidate and perhaps extend a lead against one of the best teams in the world. You know managing a game to find a way to win.

    Secondly where did I make an excuse for Townsend? It was Finn that decided to enter the kicking contest. Not pretty, but he had the upper hand and was doing alright.

    I agree the French are always capable of pulling a rabbit out of a hat. I didn’t mention it before but the pass to the winger was at least a metre forward, go check it out.

    So two different ref decisions we win that game and no mention of game plans. Finn is right we need to take these decisions out of the officials hands. I’m generally not one for making excuses but sometimes you just get given the shitty end of the stick.

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    • Mac its all about opinions. See Ian Morrisons latest article point 1. Doesnt make you wrong or me right but needless to say I agree with his take.

  9. Scotland won the game but tmo and ref gave it to France. Scotland done all they had to win showed a different way of winning which to honest really surprised me.But didn’t get the win the fought so hard to earn

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  10. Scouring French social media this morning, you won’t find many French fans who agree with Galthie’s or Aldritt’s analysis. A few translated comments from Le Monde readers below (pls don’t be offended by our French cousins’ humour):
    “Sometimes you have to wait until the end of a live show to get the best joke of the day”
    “There is no clear image of a Scot grounding the ball … although there is a try”
    “We take the win, but feel a little ashamed”
    “The heist of the century”
    “There’s Maradona’s hand”
    “If I was a Scot I would feel disgusted, but as Scots eat haggis perhaps they don’t feel disgust”

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  11. Galthie’s comments were made in one of those quintessential French “metaphysical” moments where reality becomes blurred with philosophy. For anyone who hasn’t had a sufficient does of Stockholm Syndrome this weekend, check out the following analysis on You Tube “The Worst TMO Call In The History of Rugby” by TASanalytics.

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  12. Perhaps in this scientific age it would be able to take the still image that shows the ball being grounded, then strip away the bodies,feet etc to reveal the ball alone on the ground thereby confirming or not a try?
    Still time surely to amend the result before the next round of games.

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  13. Forget Galthie, who doesn’t wear those jam jars for nothing. My main takeaway is that you should play your natural game and keep to your strengths. Had we done so I reckon we would have won fairly comfortably. It certainly worked for us in the first half and then for some bizarre reason we decided to throw away the advantage and do something else. Kick tennis nullifies the natural talent we have in our back division and we were just asking to be caught by a sucker punch, which duly arrived. Disaster invited upon ourselves. My worry is that despite its many talents this team doesn’t know how to win matches and keeps inventing new ways of beating itself. The officiating at the end was however a farce. A ref who immediately blows for ‘held up’ despite the fact he couldn’t possibly see clearly and then a TMO who didn’t have the courage to make a decision. Oh wait, he did – and then he second-guessed himself out of it. We should never have to rely on the lottery of duff officiating – and that is exactly the position we put ourselves in. No one else. Finally. well done Harry Paterson – ‘Go out on that stage kid and come back a star!’

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    • I read in these columns a lot about Scotland’s inability to change game plan if plan A doesn’t go as expected.
      Now I’m not a fan of kick tennis but until Bielle-Biarrey moment of inspiration Scotland were executing a different game plan quite successfully against one of the top nation’s in the world.
      Now I’m as disappointed as any fan but despite the ” sucker punch” thats not something I’m going to castigate them for.
      In the end our forwards (not our backs) did get the score needed to win the game. Just not awarded by the match officials.
      I’m as disappointed as any fan at the outcome but my view is they were managing the game appropriately and almost got it back despite not “playing our natural game”.
      So whats it going to be do we stick to only flinging the ball wide all the times or do we try to develop different winning strategies?

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      • What a load of garbage, did you copy that out of Townsends 1001 excuses why we failed again. The French were poor, we tightened up/ didnt believe in ourseves and took the easy option of a kick fest hiding behind a 6 point cushion. Now there maybe some teams you can execute that plan against however irrespective of how badly the French are playing if there is one team in world rugby who can conjure a piece of magic from nothing its the French. And so it proved. Utterly inexplicable that we chose to defend a small lead against them.

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      • replying to Tasmanian Tiger.

        Yep you totally missed the point of what I was saying.

        Firstly I don’t accept your premise that we were defending a six point cushion (of course Finn is notorious for his defensive play) but trying to gain a territorial and tactical advantage to consolidate and perhaps extend a lead against one of the best teams in the world. You know managing a game to find a way to win.

        Secondly where did I make an excuse for Townsend? It was Finn that decided to enter the kicking contest. Not pretty, but he had the upper hand and was doing alright.

        I agree the French are always capable of pulling a rabbit out of a hat. I didn’t mention it before but the pass to the winger was at least a metre forward, go check it out.

        So two different ref decisions we win that game and no mention of game plans. Finn is right we need to take these decisions out of the officials hands. I’m generally not one for making excuses but sometimes you just get given the shitty end of the stick.

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  14. France didn’t win though and he knows it. Shoe on other foot he would have been raging but it would have 100% been given a try against Scotland

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  15. What that was was a travesty. Because the referee bottled it, despite being only feet away, and passed the responsibility to the TMO, who then also bottled it, this will be what the game is remembered for. Neither should officiate at this level again. It was clearly a try, end of story.

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    • I think there are 23 Scottish players who shouldn’t have made mistakes and won by a mile. THEY all made mistakes but everyone blames the ref. Poor guy….

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  16. Those glasses may be ‘stylish’ but he needs new lenses….the still image all over social media shows a clearly grounded ball…. other way round it’s try given. That’s before we even talk about a dropped ball that goes 7 or 8 feet forwards then ref says ‘sideways’….it’s corrupt match fixing n any other sport would deal with it harshly. Even betting firms who wouldn’t know morality if it kicked them in the tenders are refunding bets on a Scottish win. It’s that obvious as fix.

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